Category Archives: Recruiters

When recruiters become slaveowners

Your resume may have been thrown away because the wrong person submitted it.  You may have become a victim of recruiter ownership. (No, it is not slavery, it just feels like it.)

Paul recounted to me that he was presented by a recruiter to a company for a job.  The recruiter said, “I have great contacts there!”  Nothing happened. So Paul networked his way in and set up his own interview without the recruiter.  When the hiring manager found out that a recruiter had previously presented Paul, Paul was told that it would be impossible to hire him.  The manager would have to pay a fee to the recruiter even though the recruiter did not cause the interview to happen.  The manager didn’t want to pay the fee.

Did the recruiter lie?  I don’t know.  There may have been 4 other managers that would pay a fee that turned down Paul’s resume when the recruiter presented him. The problem is that the recruiter didn’t get Paul an interview.

Did the manager lie?  I don’t know that either. If the manager has no recruiting budget, Paul is out of luck.  If the manager has a recruiting budget and someone else who is free is almost as good, Paul is out of luck.  The manager may be hiring someone who is better and paying a fee, but is still using the recruiting fee as an easy excuse to get rid of Paul.

In the end, Paul doesn’t get the job.

Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. (Abraham Lincoln)

Recruiters have to get paid by the company when they find someone a job. They can prove they submitted your resume and a company accepted it.  In many cases that is all they can prove. So the contracts often say that is all they have to prove to get paid.  A company always has an incentive to hire someone NOT submitted by a recruiter–the recruiter’s fee.     But they will hire the best person despite the fee for critical positions.

Just as it can be a mistake to have a recruiter submit you, you can make a big mistake by submitting your resume yourself. If you submit yourself first, the recruiter can’t get paid.  Even if he can get you an interview because he knows the hiring manager, he won’t even try. You submitted through the website and got turned down by an HR receptionist, so the recruiter will not resubmit you. Your unpaid resume could knock one of his paying resumes out of submission.  He won’t submit you because he doesn’t “own” you.

So why use a recruiter?  Because the recruiter may know about a job opening you don’t know exists. Because in many cases he really can get you past the HR department.  He may be able to get you an interview that you can’t get without him.

So, what do you do? Hand your resume to the hiring manager personally if you can.  Use a recruiter if the recruiter will be more effective.  Submit yourself if you found the job yourself and a recruiter will be no more effective than you will.

Then wait patiently.  It may feel like you are being sold into slavery if you are told you are not being hired because the recruiter “owns” you.  But that is a risk you and the company take because in many cases the recruiter can get you a job you can’t get on your own.

Something To Do Today

If a recruiter tells you about a job you didn’t know exists, you need to be fair and let him submit you.

If you know about a job you have to decide whether you can network your way to the hiring manager (best), if a recruiter can get you an edge in hiring (next best), or if you should submit yourself to the HR department (still okay).

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Later:              Non-competes

Coyote traps – when to gnaw off your arm

Glass ceilings

The hours game

Resume spreading services and warnings

There are two types of resume spreading services. One sends your resume to many job search websites like Monster and CareerBuilder.com. The other sends your resume to hundreds of recruiters and companies like ResumeRabbit,  indeed.com, and simplyhired.com.

The dangers

If you are employed, your resume may be sent to your current boss, or to a website he will access while searching for employees.  He may be upset to see you are looking for a job.

Your resume may also start a life on the internet that you can never stop.  As companies and sites sell and exchange masses of resumes, yours may be preserved for years and repeatedly displayed as “newly submitted.”

The reality

Getting your resume out to 1000 potential employers and recruiters is called a resume blast. It could get you hired. However, in most cases the people receiving your resume do not read it.  They are bombarded with resumes from similar services.  If you use the services that send your resume to recruiters and companies, your resume must have an impact at first glance.  If it requires a thorough reading, you are doomed. The only one of these services I check daily is ResumeSpider . I am sure there are some other useful ones somewhere.

The pay services like ResumeRabbit that send your resume out to 75 job boards get you a lot of quick exposure and save you time.  You also completely lose control of your resume. Once you send it, there is no way to indicate you have been hired.  It will be out on the internet forever.

Indeed.com and SimplyHired.com also will get your resume to a lot of employers, but function more like Monster or CareerBuilder.

Resume spreading services may be just what you need as long as you are not trying to keep your job search a secret.

Something to do today

Many job boards like Monster have resume spreading services that advertise on their sites.  You can also Google the phrase “resume blast”.

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Coming up

Your pay reflects your interview

You, the movie

How to find out if you really want to join a company

Much of the history of the Western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good. (Thomas Sowell)

We have a local Fortune 1000 company that has a reputation that makes top local people avoid the company.  That company spends a lot of money on relocating people from out of town.  However, some people love working there.  So how do you decide? Is it a good company for YOU to go to work for?

How to research a company

First off, Google the company and find out all you can about it.  Check out the company website too.  Find the easily accessible information first.

Now start asking people you know.  You can occasionally ask coworkers, but don’t interrogate them weekly about a new company.  Find other people who work there as well as those who used to work there.  If you only ask people who left, you may get a very skewed picture of the company.  The people who left the company, left for a reason.  The people who stayed there, stayed for a reason.  Find out the reasons for both.

If you start hearing a lot of people say they stay for the job security then believe them.  Don’t assume the place reeks for job advancement unless the people you respect who left say the same thing. In other words, believe why people say the stay.  Believe what people say about why they left if you really respect their work and teamwork.

Whether you are using a recruiter for this particular job or not, ask a few recruiters what they think.  You would be surprised what recruiters find out about companies.  We talk to a lot of people who want to quit from, or move to, any given company.  We naturally sift through gossip and sour grapes to find the truth.

Find out what you need to know about a company before the second interview starts.  Be prepared to give a quick “yes”.  If you have your doubts about the company, be prepared with tough questions.  Find out whether you really want to go there or not.  Be ready to “just say no.”

Something to do today

Start talking with people about companies long before you even start to look for a job.  Asking questions is called business intelligence.  Be intelligent.

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Coming up

The jobs on my resume

How to work with recruiters

How to work with recruiters?  Here some pretty good ideas.

The only thing I would change is that you reach out to 5  new recruiters each week as the author says, unless one recruiter asks to work with you exclusively, and reports to you how he is doing every few days.

How often to call about that job you want

Waiting is fine, if you want life to pass you by and spend its time with someone else.

So how often should you call? 

You will become invisible in 2 weeks if you just wait.  You will become a leprous outcast if you call 3 times a day.

To stay in competition you need to stay in contact and be remembered positively.  Here is how often to stay in touch.

If you just sent a resume.

Call a few hours after you send your resume, or the next morning, to make sure the resume was received. This is a great chance to reintroduce yourself and ask if they need more information.

Call 2 days later and ask, “What else can I do to help the process?  When can I come in?”

Then you should call every one or two weeks.  Set a time to do call backs and do them. Every time you should ask, “Have other jobs opened up that I’m eligible for?”

If you just had a phone or in-person interview.

First: send a thank you by email and another by snail mail.  Each should be a one or two line thank you.  Don’t ask questions.  Don’t bleed all over the message.  Just say, “Thank you for talking with me.  The opportunity you presented is exciting.  When can we get together for the next step?” The email will immediately cement you in the hiring manager’s mind.  The snail mail will get there a couple of days later and let him know you really want the job.

Second: stay in touch with the person who set up the interview.  Call the recruiter, HR person, or secretary at least weekly. Calling more than every 2 days is too aggressive unless they have said they expect your call..

Third: try to contact the person doing the hiring every week.  Call and at least leave a message.  You might send an email instead. Coordinate this with the recruiter who is representing you. It should be a brief call or email asking if there is anything you can do to help move along the process. Make sure they remember who you are.

You wait by pushing people gently and pleasantly to remember you and hire you.

The difference between being ignored, being the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, and being a leper is not very great. Occasional pleasant reminders work best to keep you in the running.

Something to do today

If it has been more than a week since you heard from anyone who talked to you by phone or in person, call them.

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Get the credentials of an expert -3 ways

The first 2 steps to make sure you are not forgotten by a hiring manager

I have called a hiring manager 5 times in a day to find out if he wants to hire my candidate NOW.  If you do the same, you will never get that job.  That’s one advantage of working with a recruiter who knows how far he can push a client. For me it is aggressive, for you to do it is offensive.

Waiting by your phone and hoping someone will call you might work.  It works if no one forgot you.  It works if all the paperwork is in order.  It works if no emergencies or urgencies distract the hiring manager.  It works if there is NOT an aggressive recruiter like me who is pushing a different candidate. So what can you do?

You need to be somewhere between easy to forget and offensively overbearing.

Take these two steps first:

  1. Make a list of everyone you contact.
  2. Track when you last talked to them or sent an email.  That way you will know when it has been too long or not long enough since you reminded them that they need to give you a job.

Tomorrow I will write about how often to make contact.

Something to do today

Make that list of everyone you have a potential job with. Write down when and how you made the last contact with them.

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How to wait and be noticed

Get the credentials of an expert -3 ways

7 tools inside the box. What’s wrong with thinking inside the box?

I’ll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there’s evidence of any thinking going on inside it. (Terry Pratchett)

7 tools inside the box 

I got an email that said, “I finally got a job networking.”

The job came from handing out lots of business cards.  Often you get lucky working inside the box.  The box is where the proven tools are stored.  It is where most jobs are found.  Sure, think outside the box.  It might work.  First, use all the tools in the box.

This is the box

  1. Look for a job while still employed, if you can.
  2. Concentrate most on the jobs and companies you want most.
  3. Use an accomplishment filled resume – it proves you can do the job.
  4. Get the credentials of an expert.
  5. Constantly network – let people know you are looking, follow up.
  6. Watch the job ads – internet and newspaper.
  7. Use recruiters and constantly follow up with them.

Are you using all the tools inside the box?

Something to do today

Concentrate on a different tool every day or every week of your job search.  It helps keep the hunt from getting boring.

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How to wait for the next interview

Be a squeaky wheel

Get the credentials of an expert

Am I psychotic if I trust a neurotic agency recruiter? 8 questions to ask.

Agency recruiters are slightly neurotic, money driven, friendly, busy sales people. Neurotics build castles in the air.  Psychotics live in them and don’t ask questions.  Are you psychotic?

Should I trust an agency recruiter?

Only if they are honest.

There are a few recruiters who lie just to keep in practice.  They are the same vile few who discriminate maliciously.  They are a small minority of agency recruiters.  One simple reason that they are so few is that it is bad business.  People stop trusting liars immediately.  They won’t do business with them.  Discrimination based on anything besides actual ability and potential reduces the recruiter’s chances of making a placement.  In other words, it costs a lot of money to be a horrible person.

There are a lot of recruiters who tell “white lies”.   They try to ease their way through the day by avoiding bad news.  They say, “I will find you a job,” when all they are really thinking is, “If I put your resume in the database there is a chance that someday we might get a matching job. Please leave me alone.”

And there are a reasonable number of recruiters who always tell the truth.  They don’t sugar coat it.  They just tell the truth.

How to get a recruiter to tell the truth:

Ask hard questions. Ask those questions often.

Try these:

  • What exactly does that mean?
  • Why?
  • What exactly will you do?”
  • Who precisely will you be presenting me to?
  • What has been done in the last week?
  • How many times was I presented last week?
  • To whom was I presented last week?
  • Did my resume go to HR or a hiring manager?  Who?

It may embarrass the recruiter, but you are more likely to find out what was done if you interrogate him like a policeman would.

You are not psychotic if you trust a neurotic recruiter who you grill mercilessly.  Recruiters want to be honest. Pin them down and you are taking responsibility.  That is smart, not psychotic.

Your job search is really your responsibility. Get solid information about how recruiters are helping you.  A few will lie.  Most will squirm uncomfortably and tell you the truth. It is your life. Take the initiative. Seize the day.

Something to do today

Call all the recruiters who you submitted your resume to.  Ask them exactly what they have done for you in the last two weeks.

3 ways to find out if you are underpaid

I got a call from three business analysts from one international company in the same month.  Each of them wanted to leave.  The first thing cited was their low salary.  When I said, “You can get a different job, but you will have to take at least a $10,000 per year pay cut,” they backed off.  It was the awful truth. Each one of them had golden handcuffs.  They were earning at least 15% more than any other local business would pay them. Of course the problem wasn’t their low pay, the problem was the unpaid overtime they were putting in.  At least they thought it was unpaid until they found out the pay cut they would have to take to move elsewhere.

Contract employees often tell me, “I want a salaried job, but I’m not going to accept less than I’m earning now.”  They want to stop traveling, have health insurance, a generous training allowance, and get into a secure job with a future in one company.  Yet, they want to be paid the same as when they had none of those things.  Contract employees often earn twice what a salaried employee earns.  It is for the simple fact that contractors have to take care of themselves.

Certainly some are vastly underpaid.  I had one friend, Joe, who went from $35,000 per year to $50,000 per year in one salary jump because he was underpaid.  Yes, it happens.  More often employees are within 5% of the market rate for their job.  If an employer pays less, they start losing people.  Either they raise salaries or I come in and steal all of their best people.  Then they are left with a bunch really poor employees and maybe one great person who hasn’t found out yet.  When that great employee leaves, the company may go out of business.

To find out if you are really underpaid, first look at your performance. Only superstars get superstar salaries. If you are just average, you should expect average wages.  If you are below average, your wages will be lower.

Now do what Joe did, ask your coworkers how much they are paid, if you can.  Joe didn’t do it for 5 years.  When he finally asked, he asked workers he knew were lower rated than he was.  When he found they were all earning more than he was, he had a right to get mad and get it fixed.

You can also look in the employment ads.  Just remember that ads lie.  A range of $50,000 to $60,000 does not mean you magically qualify for the high end.  It means if you are a superstar you may hit the high end.  It means an average worker will get the bottom number.  A poor worker will not get hired.

Next, put together your resume and send it to a recruiter who specializes in placing folks like you.  Ask for an honest opinion, “Can I expect a raise going to my next job?”  Follow that up with, “How is my current pay compared to others doing the same job?”  If the recruiter gasps and says, “I will have you three interviews tomorrow,” you are drastically underpaid.  If he says, “It will take a while, but I may be able to find you a job,” your pay is within 5% of the norm or possibly high.

The ways to find out if you REALLY are underpaid are:

  1. Ask coworkers rated lower than you are, “What do they pay you?”
  2. Look at job ads.
  3. Get a great resume to a recruiter and see how he reacts.

Find out where you stand, but be prepared for the “bad news” that you are paid about what you should be paid.  If you get the “bad news”, fix it.  Do the better work that will get you a raise, or get a job with a brighter future.

Folks who never do any more than they are paid for, never get paid more than they do.  (Elbert Hubbard)

Something to do today

Do you have the guts to find out if you are being paid fairly?  Then do it.

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Later:               Attracting change

Google to disaster

That loud sucking sound

How to tell who is great

55 gallon oil drums on the horizon

Why recruiting looks easy

A lot of people can’t believe I get paid for working out of my attic.  Sometimes it only takes a half hour from when I find out about a job until I have submitted the winning candidate.

This article uses a child’s story to tell why there are so few successful recruiters, and what the good ones do right.